The Empire

[AbbotAlf0805]

Ok i meant i finished the book yesterday but ill look for a link

[Lutra]

Given the fact Redwall is based heavily on medieval times, your standard form of rule of the time, is an individual manor, ruled by a lord.  The subjects underneath are required to work and provide food and goods for the Lord in return for protection from invaders.  This is exactly what Kotir and Lord Verdauga fall under.    An empire is one where the ones in power want to control more than just what they see.  You never gather that Verdauga or even Tsarmina for that matter, want any more control beyond the land they own...and that is the immediate land around Kotir.  They didn't want to lose control (a Lord wouldn't want to lose control) but weren't interested in anything beyond the woods.  Tsarmina would've gone after her brother if you were to compare these people to empire builders.

[Leatho Shellhound]

Yes I think what Lutra said is right but it was still a cool thought....Do you think there are any other Empires in the Redwall book?

[Lutra]

Yes I think what Lutra said is right but it was still a cool thought....Do you think there are any other Empires in the Redwall book?

Nope....I didn't gather that any individual wanted an empire in the series.  Conquering or ruling over one place is not the same as building up a necessary army with the sole purpose of invading and conquering others.   No group ever seemed to have enough individuals to protect their home AND try and conquer someone else.  There was always a shortage somewhere, whether it was individuals or resources.  

[Flandor]

Ublaz did go by the title of Emperor, though.

[Lutra]

Ublaz did go by the title of Emperor, though.

While that may be true, he didn't act like one....sitting on his island, keeping control of his timber stock.  Ublaz seemed pretty content to just stay where he was and have others do his bidding/plundering.

[Flandor]

Oh I do agree with you there, Lutra, I was just pointing out that he was (I think) the only baddie to call himself an emperor.

[Redwallfan7]

also, not to be rude, but the reason I don't think it's based off of Star Wars is because the Redwall books aren't sci fi.  If they were, I could see it as a possibility.

[AbbotAlf0805]

N'kay just wanted yall's thoughts on this. 

[Ajc3000fox]

.    An empire is one where the ones in power want to control more than just what they see.  You never gather that Verdauga or even Tsarmina for that matter, want any more control beyond the land they own...and that is the immediate land around Kotir. 

Well not exactly....If an empire was simply a power that wanted more land then an empire couldn't really exsist, because there is always more to control, right?

An Empire is deffined as a Power the controls several other former powers. For example The british empire was ruled by the british, but consisted of more then just England. It was made of India, America, and many other island states and and even hong kong at one point. But Kotir still isn't an empire. They may rule mosslower, but thats it. They wouldn't Become an Empire intill consuming yet another kingdom.

Ublaz did go by the title of Emperor, it is sorta true, he rulled all the other pirates. And maybe some other islands.

[Lord Gorath]

Was'nt Ungatt Trunn an emperor? I mean, he tried to conquer Salamandastron, and that was more then he had.

[UNKN0WN]

I did some research and Brian based them off the Empire from Star Wars.

copy cat

[Kitsune]

I don't see the connection between Star Wars and Kotir... and I think it was more of a kingdom, not an empire.

[Romsca]

This is so interesting! But let's all get this straight first: Verdauga was not evil. Verdauga was AWESOME.   Tsarmina was the one who was evil. Careful what you say about Verdauga, HE'S MY FAVORITE WILDCAT OF ALL TIME, IN THE REDWALL SERIES.

[Leatho Shellhound]

Ungatt Trunn (spelling?) and his family were like Empire builders.