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Re: What Happened To Martin's Tomb?
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2017, 05:43:10 PM »

I think there was a graveyard at St. Ninian's. Does anyone else recall that?
Failing that as a burial place, the most likely area would be on the plains.
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Re: What Happened To Martin's Tomb?
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2017, 06:20:27 PM »

What if they've all been stuffed into Martin's tomb?
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Re: What Happened To Martin's Tomb?
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2017, 07:14:32 PM »

I think there was a graveyard at St. Ninian's. Does anyone else recall that?
Failing that as a burial place, the most likely area would be on the plains.

Wasn't that abandoned, though?
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Re: What Happened To Martin's Tomb?
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2017, 07:59:27 PM »

It was burned down. But the grounds would still be intact, and what better place for a cemetery?
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Re: What Happened To Martin's Tomb?
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2017, 08:52:42 PM »

It was burned down. But the grounds would still be intact, and what better place for a cemetery?

No yeah, totally.
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Re: What Happened To Martin's Tomb?
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2017, 10:53:46 PM »

I believe in the Long Patrol there was a mass grave for the Rapscallions(?) who had died, but other than that. . .
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Re: What Happened To Martin's Tomb?
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2017, 11:07:11 PM »

Do they only bury select creatures?
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Re: What Happened To Martin's Tomb?
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2017, 01:09:52 AM »

I don't think they would specially bury vermin. :P I imagine most Redwallers would be given proper burials in private graves, or in the case of wartime, lined up neatly in a large grave.
We should look up what the burial practices for the ancient Celts was like.
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Re: What Happened To Martin's Tomb?
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2017, 06:20:12 AM »

I think there was a graveyard at St. Ninian's. Does anyone else recall that?
Failing that as a burial place, the most likely area would be on the plains.

Sure, but I can't recall in any of the books it being mentioned that Abbey beasts who died in or near the Abbey during peace time who weren't buried within abbey grounds. There is no mention of an Abbey beast being buried at St. Ninians or on the plains. I can only think of one example contrary to this in the book the Long Patrol, following the battle with the Rapscallions that the good beasts were buried I think on top of the hill/ridge. But that would be an extreme circumstance and doesn't really explain peace time burials...

Loamhedge Abbey, had a specifically designated area for their graveyard- complete with headstones/tombstones as detailed in the book of the same name. Since Loamhedge mice buried their dead- to very much Western standards, and they founded Redwall it makes sense that they would preserve their mortuary/burial practices at Redwall.
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Re: What Happened To Martin's Tomb?
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2017, 02:03:28 PM »

Yes, but the amount of creatures that have died and would have died over the ages would have filled any designated area for burial inside the abbey.
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Re: What Happened To Martin's Tomb?
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2017, 11:56:48 PM »

Ah zink Ah recall vone or zeveral Vermin bodiez bein' zrovn in ze ditch ootzoide.
Zere are many zin'z mentioned in ze firzt book zat dinnae appear anyvhere elze in ze zeriez: loike Abbot Mortimer namin' ze Zvord, Martin'z Tomb, etc. It needz tae be noted zat Redwall vaz originally vritten az a zingle Novel.
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Re: What Happened To Martin's Tomb?
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2017, 12:02:22 AM »

That does not mean that important places like that have an excuse to just disappear.
Brian kept lots of location-type things in-world (excluding the maps, which vary every book) consistent.
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Re: What Happened To Martin's Tomb?
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2017, 08:07:33 PM »

He kept in several things, like the weathervane being where the sword was put and St. Ninian's, but he definitely left out many other things. Like after Mattimeo the sparrows just disappeared.
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Re: What Happened To Martin's Tomb?
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2017, 12:58:23 AM »

Maybe the Redwallers cooked them and ate them. >:D

Or they forgot to pay their rent!
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Re: What Happened To Martin's Tomb?
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2017, 02:36:51 AM »

This would make for a fascinating detail to have been featured in one of the books. Too bad there won't be any more other than fanfiction.
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