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Re: Dogs/hounds
« Reply #45 on: October 16, 2017, 12:20:29 AM »

That's not clear in the books. It's obvious they were powerful and feared, but what stance they took is never told. My guess is they would be bad if we were to go by the formula the books usually take.
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Re: Dogs/hounds
« Reply #46 on: October 16, 2017, 12:28:52 AM »

Indeed. Just based on the thinking Jacques used in his sorting, they'd almost certainly be evil. In English folklore/culture, wolves are about as quintessentially baddie as it gets.
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Re: Dogs/hounds
« Reply #47 on: October 16, 2017, 12:39:08 AM »

Except the one that guarded the head of Saint Edmund. That was a good wolf. The rest are eeeeeeeevillll.
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Re: Dogs/hounds
« Reply #48 on: October 16, 2017, 01:58:08 AM »

So what would the role of a wolf be do you think? A natural leader? Pure brawn?
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Re: Dogs/hounds
« Reply #49 on: October 16, 2017, 02:26:20 AM »

Both.
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Re: Dogs/hounds
« Reply #50 on: October 16, 2017, 02:32:44 AM »

Honestly, more I think about it, probably not that different from wolverines. Despite all the debate about how wolverines might be neutral or good, I think the straightforward interpretation is that they are just savage, nearly indomitable dangerous monsters that tower over all the vermin around them.
So, if I was designing Redwallian wolves, they'd be very rare, the badger equivalent in evil alignment, and terrifying to both goodies and baddies. 'Omen of danger', to play off the folklore. Unless they are adverse to interaction, and just want to be savage predators removed from the politics of assembling a band/army/horde/whatever.
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Re: Dogs/hounds
« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2017, 04:24:46 AM »

Also they were Dirgecallers not Dirgehounds.
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Re: Dogs/hounds
« Reply #52 on: October 16, 2017, 04:46:12 AM »

"Lone wolf" comes to.mind.
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Re: Dogs/hounds
« Reply #53 on: October 16, 2017, 12:55:19 PM »

Maugrim from C. S. Lewis' The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe is a good example for a vermin wolf.
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Re: Dogs/hounds
« Reply #54 on: October 16, 2017, 05:30:56 PM »

Wolves are also commonly (but less commonly) shown to be noble, strong, and majestic.

They could have worked as "gray" characters.
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Re: Dogs/hounds
« Reply #55 on: October 16, 2017, 05:45:37 PM »

Yeah, could be possible. Then Brian could have gone down the same route as with wildcats, having the good, the bad and the grey. As others have said, going by how wolves have typically been portrayed in stories, I think they would have been mostly shown as bad.
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Re: Dogs/hounds
« Reply #56 on: October 16, 2017, 05:48:02 PM »

The good the bad and the grey. . . Heh.
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Re: Dogs/hounds
« Reply #57 on: October 16, 2017, 05:49:10 PM »

Doesn't have quite the same ring to it, but yeah. :p
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