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Re: The Great War of the Redwall World
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2015, 04:08:32 AM »

Actually, Brian Jacques never said Cluny and his army were from the North. It is rumored that he was a Portuguese (spelling?) rat, but no one knows for sure. The book states that he was a bilge rat, but other than that, there is no certain information. I think Brian Jacques meant to have Cluny be a mystery, with no one knowing where he came from.

Actually we do know that Cluny and his army were from the north based on their path of travel and the events of Redwall.  First, we know that he had never been in the area before, otherwise his name wouldn't have been a myth or one to frighten dibbuns with.  The second way we know he's from the north is because of path.  When attacking Redwall Cluny and his army camp at St. Ninians which is south of Redwall (see the map in the front of the book).  Second Cluny is quoted saying "Trail back to the west.  I think we passed a big place on the way."  We know they were following the north/south road which is revealed to only go north and south in other books.  The only way they could have passed Redwall and ended up at St. Ninians is to have been traveling from the north.

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Re: The Great War of the Redwall World
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2015, 09:28:29 AM »

Cluny might have come in the North and then he might have been defeated there, seeing how the rats hadn't marched their way to Redwall and they were in a cart, suggesting Cluny was defeated once before Redwall. He could still be a Portuguese rat that way.
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Re: The Great War of the Redwall World
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2015, 06:09:51 PM »

Actually, Brian Jacques never said Cluny and his army were from the North. It is rumored that he was a Portuguese (spelling?) rat, but no one knows for sure. The book states that he was a bilge rat, but other than that, there is no certain information. I think Brian Jacques meant to have Cluny be a mystery, with no one knowing where he came from.

Actually we do know that Cluny and his army were from the north based on their path of travel and the events of Redwall.  First, we know that he had never been in the area before, otherwise his name wouldn't have been a myth or one to frighten dibbuns with.  The second way we know he's from the north is because of path.  When attacking Redwall Cluny and his army camp at St. Ninians which is south of Redwall (see the map in the front of the book).  Second Cluny is quoted saying "Trail back to the west.  I think we passed a big place on the way."  We know they were following the north/south road which is revealed to only go north and south in other books.  The only way they could have passed Redwall and ended up at St. Ninians is to have been traveling from the north.

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 The book mentions, I believe, that Cluny was thought to have come from far-away jungles. Jungles don't typically grow in the North, do they?  ;)
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Re: The Great War of the Redwall World
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2015, 06:43:41 PM »


The book also mentions that Cluny was the foulest rat to jump from ship to shore or something like that. If he was originally a pirate he could be from basically anywhere and simply landed North of the Abbey.
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Re: The Great War of the Redwall World
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2015, 02:52:17 AM »

Wow...... just wow.......


Where did you get all those awesome ideas?  :D

That's amazing!!!!

I have read the books quite a few times and as far as I can tell all the ideas come from the books. He conneted them in a way that really makes sense and makes for a fun thing to ponder. I would have loved reading a book that ties it all together especially adding the Eagles and Hawks that come from the highlands.
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Re: The Great War of the Redwall World
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2015, 01:06:21 AM »

The books do mention a lot of hints that this could have happened
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Re: The Great War of the Redwall World
« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2015, 06:20:51 PM »

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However, the next empire would spring from the South in the form of yet another cat kingdom, namely that of Malkarkis.

I think if you read Mattimeo it says that Malkaris was a polecat. A polecat isn't a cat at all, really; it's more closely related to ferrets. (One could argue that they're the same species, but it's all rather confusing.)

Hopefully this sheds a bit of light on the discussion.
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Re: The Great War of the Redwall World
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2017, 04:17:55 AM »

I do like this thoery but I'm also interested in the Great Vermin War mention in Eulalia
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Re: The Great War of the Redwall World
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2017, 04:23:06 AM »

Was there one? I don't recall.
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Re: The Great War of the Redwall World
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2017, 04:35:08 AM »

Was there one? I don't recall.

Yeah It mention how Gorath's parents fought and died in the war
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Re: The Great War of the Redwall World
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2017, 06:10:58 AM »

With a name like that it sounds like it would have been just vermin against vermin, funny that Woodlanders got roped up in it.

(Of course they did...nosy ants.)
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Re: The Great War of the Redwall World
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2017, 09:02:37 PM »

With a name like that it sounds like it would have been just vermin against vermin, funny that Woodlanders got roped up in it.

(Of course they did...nosy ants.)

that could be the case with the vermin armies also attacking the woodlanders problem is Brian didn't talk about it that much
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Re: The Great War of the Redwall World
« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2017, 10:13:02 PM »

Well, it'd make fer a good fanfiction.
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Re: The Great War of the Redwall World
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2017, 05:08:41 PM »

Sorry it's wars not war.
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Re: The Great War of the Redwall World
« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2017, 08:32:15 PM »

Hmm.
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