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Title: Unpublished Work
Post by: Mariel on June 12, 2011, 04:49:31 AM
I've heard some rumors that Brian Jacques wrote a Redwall book, perhaps more, before he died.  It goes without saying that this would be my greatest dream as a fan!  I love the idea that there might still be some unpublished Jacques masterpieces out in Liverpool.  In addition to the fact that we would get more material, there is also that "National Treasure" aspect of recovering lost literature.  (If the "National Treasure" example doesn't make sense, try this: one of the reasons I love learning and translating Latin is because it combines language AND history.)

I read something about a new book that might be called "Pondicherry", although why the British-born Jacques would be motivated to write about a city in India, I haven't the foggiest idea.  Maybe it's a character's name or something.  But something else tells me there's another Jacques book out there.  This is just a gut instinct, and you can laugh all you want (or post laughing emoticons, anyway) but I just didn't think The Rogue Crew was worthy of being THE last Redwall novel.  Sure, it's a great story, but it just didn't speak to me like some of my other favorite books in the series.  For some reason, I think Jacques has a big smash of a story, a real epic, hidden away somewhere, ready to be published any time from next year to 2075. 

So...yeah.  Please post all your rumors (from credible sources please), feelings, questions, and anything else you want to share with Redwall Abbey about unpublished work.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Log a Log Grenn on June 12, 2011, 10:31:51 AM
Yes I heard that there was going to be another series which he wrote years ago but never published
Where the good characters are the bad(exp.Malkariss) and the Redwallers are evil
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Matthias720 on June 12, 2011, 03:39:53 PM
Hmmm... Never heard these rumors before, so I'd have to say that I'm skeptical until any real proof can be produced. It is cool to think about though. 8)
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: TinaFey123/Tomthetomatoe on June 12, 2011, 05:43:36 PM
Fascinating that Redwall Abbey could possibly have more books in the series. If there are more, I sincerely wish that one of the characters develops what would be, or similar to, superpowers, and uses them to combat some kind of "super villain." I think that would really do wonders for the fantasticalism and wonder of the books' overall plot. Secretly, I hope the super villain is similar to Chronos from the Incredibles.   
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Log a Log Grenn on June 12, 2011, 05:47:58 PM
Do you mean if some else than Brian Jacques wrote them? Tina ???
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: daskar666 on June 12, 2011, 06:05:08 PM
Redwall written by someone else would be better than no redwall at all.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Log a Log Grenn on June 12, 2011, 06:13:46 PM
I totally agree
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: martins#1fan on June 12, 2011, 06:21:00 PM
I agree however, the books are originally written by Brian. If somebody else wrote, them they just wouldn't be the same.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Log a Log Grenn on June 12, 2011, 06:24:04 PM
When I said I totally agree I meant written by another writer would be worse than no Redwall at all
I hadn't fully understood Daskar's post
So I hope that there is no more Redwall unless it is written by Brian
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Spring Breeze on June 12, 2011, 07:41:39 PM
Personally I think that if Brian wrote a book and didn't publish it it was his own choice to not publish it and so it might be his wish that it is never published.  So even though it would be wonderful to have move amazing writing I would not want to read it if Brian did not want others to read it.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Log a Log Grenn on June 12, 2011, 07:51:23 PM
Yeah it would be unfair on his fans and on him
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: daskar666 on June 12, 2011, 08:27:33 PM
Quote from: Log a Log Grenn on June 12, 2011, 06:24:04 PM
When I said I totally agree I meant written by another writer would be worse than no Redwall at all
I hadn't fully understood Daskar's post
So I hope that there is no more Redwall unless it is written by Brian
That's the line of thinking I never understood.
If redwall books are written by other people no one's forcing you to read them.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Log a Log Grenn on June 12, 2011, 08:29:28 PM
But it may give the series a bad reputation
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: daskar666 on June 12, 2011, 09:11:23 PM
Maybe it will, maybe it won't, no way to find out unless someone else writes a book and it gets reviewed.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Log a Log Grenn on June 12, 2011, 09:18:14 PM
But I still think it would only be fair if B j told the person to write them
If some random person just started writing them it wouldn't be right
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Flurgy Twinj on June 12, 2011, 11:51:43 PM
To be honest, I don't see any reason as to why somebody else couldn't write a spin-off story (or series of stories) that, whilst set within the Redwall universe, aren't actually part of the core 'Tales Of Redwall' series itself as written by Brian Jacques.

Other well known franchises (ie. Star Wars) have plenty of novels written by numerous different authors and some of them are brilliant and don't tarnish the name they're using at all.

If any author wrote a Redwall story, it would still have to go through assessment by publishers, it's unlikely that they'd release anything that they didn't think was of a sufficiently high enough quality for us fans  :)
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Osu on June 13, 2011, 02:43:32 AM
I don't believe there is another Redwall book sitting around unpublished. I also would be unhappy if another author took up writing the series; but then, I've never been big on fanfiction.

I'll admit it would be nice if the show could go on, though!
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: The Lady Shael on June 13, 2011, 06:30:52 AM
Anyone is welcome to write fanfiction and post it online (whether on the RFF or the Redwall section of fanfiction.net), however I doubt it will be possible to publish an  "official" Redwall book since Redwall belonged to Brian Jacques. I'm pretty sure he owns the copyright and without his consent (or in this case, his family's consent), no one would be able to publish a book under the "Redwall" name.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Log a Log Grenn on June 13, 2011, 03:41:25 PM
Few
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Mariel on June 13, 2011, 03:50:39 PM
I would love to read more Redwall books, regardless of whether or not Jacques wrote them.  Redwall is such a strong idea that I would love it to become a whole genre, not just a series.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: The Lady Shael on June 13, 2011, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: Log a Log Grenn on June 13, 2011, 03:41:25 PM
Few

Grenn, quality not quantity is important when it comes to posting. :)
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 14, 2011, 11:48:15 PM
Quote from: Flurgy Twinj on June 12, 2011, 11:51:43 PM
To be honest, I don't see any reason as to why somebody else couldn't write a spin-off story (or series of stories) that, whilst set within the Redwall universe, aren't actually part of the core 'Tales Of Redwall' series itself as written by Brian Jacques.

Other well known franchises (ie. Star Wars) have plenty of novels written by numerous different authors and some of them are brilliant and don't tarnish the name they're using at all.

If any author wrote a Redwall story, it would still have to go through assessment by publishers, it's unlikely that they'd release anything that they didn't think was of a sufficiently high enough quality for us fans  :)

The thing is, Star Wars is an Expanded Universe series, while Redwall isin't.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: martins#1fan on June 16, 2011, 07:47:16 PM
Quote from: Osu on June 13, 2011, 02:43:32 AM
I don't believe there is another Redwall book sitting around unpublished. I also would be unhappy if another author took up writing the series; but then, I've never been big on fanfiction.

I'll admit it would be nice if the show could go on, though!
Dose Brian have any heirs to take up the work?
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Redwall Musician on June 16, 2011, 07:57:42 PM
It would have been nice if Brian could have decided who was going to write his books. I think if they could find someone really close to his style of writing, it would be awesome. I think that a couple more books would be nice.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: martins#1fan on June 16, 2011, 08:29:04 PM
Quote from: Mariel on June 12, 2011, 04:49:31 AM
I've heard some rumors that Brian Jacques wrote a Redwall book, perhaps more, before he died.  It goes without saying that this would be my greatest dream as a fan!  I love the idea that there might still be some unpublished Jacques masterpieces out in Liverpool.  In addition to the fact that we would get more material, there is also that "National Treasure" aspect of recovering lost literature.  (If the "National Treasure" example doesn't make sense, try this: one of the reasons I love learning and translating Latin is because it combines language AND history.)

I read something about a new book that might be called "Pondicherry", although why the British-born Jacques would be motivated to write about a city in India, I haven't the foggiest idea.  Maybe it's a character's name or something.  But something else tells me there's another Jacques book out there.  This is just a gut instinct, and you can laugh all you want (or post laughing emoticons, anyway) but I just didn't think The Rogue Crew was worthy of being THE last Redwall novel.  Sure, it's a great story, but it just didn't speak to me like some of my other favorite books in the series.  For some reason, I think Jacques has a big smash of a story, a real epic, hidden away somewhere, ready to be published any time from next year to 2075. 

So...yeah.  Please post all your rumors (from credible sources please), feelings, questions, and anything else you want to share with Redwall Abbey about unpublished work.
@Mariel cool! do you think theres anything else about Martin??
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: martins#1fan on June 16, 2011, 08:31:19 PM
As I've said before, does Brian have any heirs to keep the series going??
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Mariel on June 16, 2011, 08:40:25 PM
@martin: Actually, a story about Martin or Matthias would be my first guess as to what additional Redwall work would be about, because it would round out the series by finally coming back to them.  I know that Brian Jacques has two sons, but I'm not sure if they are writers or not.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: martins#1fan on June 16, 2011, 08:44:07 PM
Quote from: Mariel on June 16, 2011, 08:40:25 PM
@martin: Actually, a story about Martin or Matthias would be my first guess as to what additional Redwall work would be about, because it would round out the series by finally coming back to them.  I know that Brian Jacques has two sons, but I'm not sure if they are writers or not.
Exellent! Maybe one of the two will keep it going, or maybe even both of them it would be extremely nice!
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: daskar666 on June 16, 2011, 11:24:54 PM
Anyways, someone BETTER continue writing more Redwall otherwise someone will be srsly PISSED.
(btw sure it wont be the same as if Brian wrote it but redwall is overdue for a change from the old formula)
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Wot Wot! on June 17, 2011, 01:19:02 AM
Pondicherry is a possibility because Brian was known to get another Redwall adventure going before his latest was even out in print, so another Redwall is probably out there.  Whether or not it is ready for publication is another thing (it might be half-finished or need some serious editing). 

I don't think I would take to another author penning Redwall.  Think of more Narnia adventures not written by CS Lewis or more Lord of the Rings without Tolkien.  Just like these authors, Jacques has a definite style and flair which could possibly be imitated, but never come close to the real thing.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: martins#1fan on June 17, 2011, 03:13:32 PM
Quote from: Wot Wot! on June 17, 2011, 01:19:02 AM
Pondicherry is a possibility because Brian was known to get another Redwall adventure going before his latest was even out in print, so another Redwall is probably out there.  Whether or not it is ready for publication is another thing (it might be half-finished or need some serious editing). 

I don't think I would take to another author penning Redwall.  Think of more Narnia adventures not written by CS Lewis or more Lord of the Rings without Tolkien.  Just like these authors, Jacques has a definite style and flair which could possibly be imitated, but never come close to the real thing.
I have to agree! I mean it would be nice to keep them going, however, it just wouldn't be the same.
I guess I didn't think about it that way! ::)
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Storm on June 17, 2011, 03:58:51 PM
The thought that there may be another book fills me with hope. If this rumor is true, you can be sure that I will do my best to find the book.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: martins#1fan on June 17, 2011, 04:01:47 PM
@ storm Not without a struggle! :o
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: daskar666 on June 17, 2011, 11:14:56 PM
On the plus side, if the books are written by someone else we might get never-before-seen story elements.
I always wanted a woodlander main villain. The basic vermin species are too...similar and woodlanders are so different
Mice are basic, moles are tunnel experts squirrels are perfect climbers, hares are amazing fighters, and badgers...do I even have to?
It would be nice for one of them to be a villain. A hare villain would be especially perfect, seeing as he would probably expertly slay innocent woodlanders and joke about it with all those jolly old wot wots. Much better than paranoid villains like Gabool who are scared to death of bells.
Also it would be nice if Redwall was taken over for once. If it could be done with Salamandastron, it could be done with Redwall.
Plus we still need a story about Loamhen/dge. The actual Abbey, not the ruins.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Lily on June 18, 2011, 08:04:10 AM
It's not a Redwall book, but Brian Jacques did have an unpublished autobiography called A Divvil of a Lad. You can read about it at the wiki (http://redwall.wikia.com/wiki/A_Divvil_of_a_Lad). It looks like it was shelved quite a few years ago, but who knows?
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: DanielofRedwall on June 20, 2011, 10:19:09 AM
I really hope that nobody else continues the Redwall series, it would just ruin the legacy of Brian. Even if somebody did, I would never read it.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: daskar666 on June 21, 2011, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: DanielofRedwall on June 20, 2011, 10:19:09 AM
I really hope that nobody else continues the Redwall series, it would just ruin the legacy of Brian. Even if somebody did, I would never read it.
I REALLY hate when people immediately assume that different=bad, everything in ruins, etc. Particularly with REDWALL which had many of its fans BEGGING for something different.
Come on, not all series are ruined when someone else works on them.
Look at the PSP game Daxter for example, the previous games were amazing and made by Naughty Dog, this one was made by Readyatdawn and it was equally amazing.
Same with the outsourced Ratchet and Clank games. Give it a chance instead of shunning it before the experience.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 21, 2011, 05:47:49 PM
Quote from: daskar666 on June 21, 2011, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: DanielofRedwall on June 20, 2011, 10:19:09 AM
I really hope that nobody else continues the Redwall series, it would just ruin the legacy of Brian. Even if somebody did, I would never read it.
I REALLY hate when people immediately assume that different=bad, everything in ruins, etc. Particularly with REDWALL which had many of its fans BEGGING for something different.
Come on, not all series are ruined when someone else works on them.
Look at the PSP game Daxter for example, the previous games were amazing and made by Naughty Dog, this one was made by Readyatdawn and it was equally amazing.
Same with the outsourced Ratchet and Clank games. Give it a chance instead of shunning it before the experience.

It is easier to duplicate the magic of a video game (or lack of it) than to duplicate the magic of a book.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: daskar666 on June 21, 2011, 05:50:45 PM
Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 21, 2011, 05:47:49 PM
Quote from: daskar666 on June 21, 2011, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: DanielofRedwall on June 20, 2011, 10:19:09 AM
I really hope that nobody else continues the Redwall series, it would just ruin the legacy of Brian. Even if somebody did, I would never read it.
I REALLY hate when people immediately assume that different=bad, everything in ruins, etc. Particularly with REDWALL which had many of its fans BEGGING for something different.
Come on, not all series are ruined when someone else works on them.
Look at the PSP game Daxter for example, the previous games were amazing and made by Naughty Dog, this one was made by Readyatdawn and it was equally amazing.
Same with the outsourced Ratchet and Clank games. Give it a chance instead of shunning it before the experience.

It is easier to duplicate the magic of a video game (or lack of it) than to duplicate the magic of a book.
Does it really need to be duplicated instead of modified?
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Martha Braebuck on June 21, 2011, 05:59:38 PM
unpublished work = my book. Anyone else writing a book?
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: martins#1fan on June 25, 2011, 05:16:27 PM
Great to be back on the forum,  ;D I was helping out at my church camp!
Any other ideas???
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Galedeep on June 29, 2011, 05:06:13 AM
I wouldn't be half surprised if someone  found something he was working on in about 5 years or so. Take J.R.R. Tolkien  for instance, they're STILL finding books he was working on, Brian Jacques seems to me one of the same kind.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: martins#1fan on June 29, 2011, 03:24:16 PM
Quote from: Galedeep on June 29, 2011, 05:06:13 AM
I wouldn't be half surprised if someone  found something he was working on in about 5 years or so. Take J.R.R. Tolkien  for instance, they're STILL finding books he was working on, Brian Jacques seems to me one of the same kind.
How VERY true.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 29, 2011, 05:05:10 PM
Quote from: daskar666 on June 21, 2011, 05:50:45 PM
Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 21, 2011, 05:47:49 PM
Quote from: daskar666 on June 21, 2011, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: DanielofRedwall on June 20, 2011, 10:19:09 AM
I really hope that nobody else continues the Redwall series, it would just ruin the legacy of Brian. Even if somebody did, I would never read it.
I REALLY hate when people immediately assume that different=bad, everything in ruins, etc. Particularly with REDWALL which had many of its fans BEGGING for something different.
Come on, not all series are ruined when someone else works on them.
Look at the PSP game Daxter for example, the previous games were amazing and made by Naughty Dog, this one was made by Readyatdawn and it was equally amazing.
Same with the outsourced Ratchet and Clank games. Give it a chance instead of shunning it before the experience.

It is easier to duplicate the magic of a video game (or lack of it) than to duplicate the magic of a book.
Does it really need to be duplicated instead of modified?


Which, if twas modified, would be saying that Redwall wasn't perfect the way twas and needed to be improved. I'm sure many people on here would like that, hmmm?
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Osu on June 29, 2011, 05:41:23 PM
Quote from: martins#1fan on June 29, 2011, 03:24:16 PM
Quote from: Galedeep on June 29, 2011, 05:06:13 AM
I wouldn't be half surprised if someone  found something he was working on in about 5 years or so. Take J.R.R. Tolkien  for instance, they're STILL finding books he was working on, Brian Jacques seems to me one of the same kind.
How VERY true.
This would be nice, but, I think, unlikely. (I'll be the first to do something crazy if they DO find something of the sort, though! :D)
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: daskar666 on June 29, 2011, 06:02:32 PM
Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 29, 2011, 05:05:10 PM
Quote from: daskar666 on June 21, 2011, 05:50:45 PM
Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 21, 2011, 05:47:49 PM
Quote from: daskar666 on June 21, 2011, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: DanielofRedwall on June 20, 2011, 10:19:09 AM
I really hope that nobody else continues the Redwall series, it would just ruin the legacy of Brian. Even if somebody did, I would never read it.
I REALLY hate when people immediately assume that different=bad, everything in ruins, etc. Particularly with REDWALL which had many of its fans BEGGING for something different.
Come on, not all series are ruined when someone else works on them.
Look at the PSP game Daxter for example, the previous games were amazing and made by Naughty Dog, this one was made by Readyatdawn and it was equally amazing.
Same with the outsourced Ratchet and Clank games. Give it a chance instead of shunning it before the experience.

It is easier to duplicate the magic of a video game (or lack of it) than to duplicate the magic of a book.
Does it really need to be duplicated instead of modified?


Which, if twas modified, would be saying that Redwall wasn't perfect the way twas and needed to be improved. I'm sure many people on here would like that, hmmm?
Are you implying that redwall is perfect? That's just arrogance and fanboyism.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 29, 2011, 06:15:42 PM
I never said that twas perfect, I'm just saying that it's fine the way it is. What it seems like you're implying is that it needs to be changed.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: daskar666 on June 30, 2011, 05:27:52 PM
I'm simply stating that different=/=bad.
I'm not denying that there would be drawbacks, but there are plenty of benefits as well.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 30, 2011, 05:45:24 PM
The thing is, as someone else has stated, the great thing about Redwall is that you can easily recognise who is good and who is bad. If their was a mouse leading an army to conquer Redwall it make the line between good and bad more blurred than it needs to be.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Tiria Wildlough on July 01, 2011, 05:58:41 AM
Quote from: Log a Log Grenn on June 12, 2011, 10:31:51 AM
Yes I heard that there was going to be another series which he wrote years ago but never published
Where the good characters are the bad(exp.Malkariss) and the Redwallers are evil
Whaaat? I don't think anyone would stomach that! (no offense, of course)
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: daskar666 on July 01, 2011, 05:41:35 PM
Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 30, 2011, 05:45:24 PM
The thing is, as someone else has stated, the great thing about Redwall is that you can easily recognise who is good and who is bad. If their was a mouse leading an army to conquer Redwall it make the line between good and bad more blurred than it needs to be.
No it wouldn't. If he were clearly leading an army then it would still be perfectly obvious that he were the antagonist. The difference would be that you wouldn't be immediately able to tell that just because one is a fox they're bad and a badger is immediately good. When you see their actions in the story it would quickly become evident tho.
Also what do you mean by "more blurred than it needs to be". What's so great about the lack of moral ambiguity. In real life people aren't simply good/bad so why should the Redwall universe be simplified?
BTW I'm reading Rakkety Tam right now and I gotta admit it's much better than the previous two books, including with moral ambiguity (Yoofus).
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Wot Wot! on July 01, 2011, 07:29:32 PM
Quote from: daskar666 on July 01, 2011, 05:41:35 PM
Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 30, 2011, 05:45:24 PM
The thing is, as someone else has stated, the great thing about Redwall is that you can easily recognise who is good and who is bad. If their was a mouse leading an army to conquer Redwall it make the line between good and bad more blurred than it needs to be.
No it wouldn't. If he were clearly leading an army then it would still be perfectly obvious that he were the antagonist. The difference would be that you wouldn't be immediately able to tell that just because one is a fox they're bad and a badger is immediately good. When you see their actions in the story it would quickly become evident tho.
Also what do you mean by "more blurred than it needs to be". What's so great about the lack of moral ambiguity. In real life people aren't simply good/bad so why should the Redwall universe be simplified?
BTW I'm reading Rakkety Tam right now and I gotta admit it's much better than the previous two books, including with moral ambiguity (Yoofus).

Seems like everyone want to make it more like a modern/contemporary series than what BJ intended...
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Lily on July 02, 2011, 03:54:07 AM
Redwall.org had a contest that they called "Ask Brian" where you could write in and ask him questions. He dealt with a few of the issues that have been raised in this thread, I thought you guys might like to read what he had to say on the subject.
Here (http://web.archive.org/web/20070502003610/http://www.redwall.org/dave/askbrian.html) is the original page. Horray for the Wayback Machine!
Quote from: Brian Jacques24. Why do you make mice, squirrels, otters and badgers "good" and foxes, rats, ferrets and such "bad"? How do you decide which are good and which are bad? (Donna Wilson, Seattle, Washington)

The bad creatures are those which are traditionally bad in European folk lore and have come to be regarded as sly or mean or evil.The good creatures are mostly small and defenceless, with the exception of the badgers.

42. Will you ever have any really good vermin or bad woodlanders in any of your stories? (Peter Johnson, Pennsylvania)

No! The goodies are good and the baddies are BAD, no grey areas.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: DanielofRedwall on July 02, 2011, 04:18:33 AM
Quote from: Lily on July 02, 2011, 03:54:07 AM
Redwall.org had a contest that they called "Ask Brian" where you could write in and ask him questions. He dealt with a few of the issues that have been raised in this thread, I thought you guys might like to read what he had to say on the subject.
Here (http://web.archive.org/web/20070502003610/http://www.redwall.org/dave/askbrian.html) is the original page. Horray for the Wayback Machine!
Quote from: Brian Jacques24. Why do you make mice, squirrels, otters and badgers "good" and foxes, rats, ferrets and such "bad"? How do you decide which are good and which are bad? (Donna Wilson, Seattle, Washington)

The bad creatures are those which are traditionally bad in European folk lore and have come to be regarded as sly or mean or evil.The good creatures are mostly small and defenceless, with the exception of the badgers.

42. Will you ever have any really good vermin or bad woodlanders in any of your stories? (Peter Johnson, Pennsylvania)

No! The goodies are good and the baddies are BAD, no grey areas.
And that is the way Brian intended it, so don't wreck it!
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: daskar666 on July 02, 2011, 03:55:31 PM
It doesn't matter if that's how he intended. Some people prefer moral ambiguity, and a different opinion from a dead author won't change their opinion just because it's theirs.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on July 02, 2011, 05:23:33 PM
Quote from: daskar666 on July 02, 2011, 03:55:31 PM
It doesn't matter if that's how he intended. Some people prefer moral ambiguity, and a different opinion from a dead author won't change their opinion just because it's theirs.

And you were talking about arrogance before...
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: daskar666 on July 02, 2011, 07:10:07 PM
Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on July 02, 2011, 05:23:33 PM
Quote from: daskar666 on July 02, 2011, 03:55:31 PM
It doesn't matter if that's how he intended. Some people prefer moral ambiguity, and a different opinion from a dead author won't change their opinion just because it's theirs.

And you were talking about arrogance before...
Dismissing someone's opinion based on the opinion's content is not arrogance.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Wot Wot! on July 02, 2011, 07:15:21 PM
Quote from: daskar666 on July 02, 2011, 03:55:31 PM
It doesn't matter if that's how he intended. Some people prefer moral ambiguity, and a different opinion from a dead author won't change their opinion just because it's theirs.

Yes, but the "dead author" in question is the one who created the world in the first place.  The stories still belong to him regardless, and a change in the stories won't make them Redwall, just a sham imitation using his imagination instead of whoever decides to try to "improve" the stories.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: martins#1fan on July 02, 2011, 07:18:57 PM
You wouldn't say that if one of his sons were writing the stories.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Galedeep on July 02, 2011, 08:14:54 PM
Quote from: martins#1fan on July 02, 2011, 07:18:57 PM
You wouldn't say that if one of his sons were writing the stories.
I don't know how they would write it, there is the good possibility that they knew Brian's vision for the books, but what I think is there is too many ways this "passing the torch" idea could go really wrong. 
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Wot Wot! on July 02, 2011, 08:17:41 PM
Quote from: martins#1fan on July 02, 2011, 07:18:57 PM
You wouldn't say that if one of his sons were writing the stories.

I don't think I'd have to:  I believe his sons (one a carpenter, one a visual artist) wouldn't dream of trying to imitate their dad.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on July 02, 2011, 08:37:51 PM
Quote from: Galedeep on July 02, 2011, 08:14:54 PM
Quote from: martins#1fan on July 02, 2011, 07:18:57 PM
You wouldn't say that if one of his sons were writing the stories.
I don't know how they would write it, there is the good possibility that they knew Brian's vision for the books, but what I think is there is too many ways this "passing the torch" idea could go really wrong.  

Aye, just look through European history and you'll see how much good those types of monarchies did.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Captain Tammo on July 02, 2011, 10:16:59 PM
Im not sure if he had any unpublished stories. Hopefully! But I have a feeling we'd already know by now.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Wot Wot! on July 02, 2011, 11:37:16 PM
Quote from: Captain Tammo on July 02, 2011, 10:16:59 PM
Im not sure if he had any unpublished stories. Hopefully! But I have a feeling we'd already know by now.

i forget the name of it, but i believe he had one in the works, just about finished, or it just needed editing...THAT is what i would be okay with...if that particular work was released.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Captain Tammo on July 03, 2011, 04:56:04 AM
Quote from: Wot Wot! on July 02, 2011, 11:37:16 PM
Quote from: Captain Tammo on July 02, 2011, 10:16:59 PM
Im not sure if he had any unpublished stories. Hopefully! But I have a feeling we'd already know by now.

i forget the name of it, but i believe he had one in the works, just about finished, or it just needed editing...THAT is what i would be okay with...if that particular work was released.

Do you know what it was about?
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: daskar666 on July 03, 2011, 06:29:04 PM
Post annihilated.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on July 03, 2011, 07:05:43 PM
Quote from: daskar666 on July 03, 2011, 06:29:04 PM
Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on July 02, 2011, 08:37:51 PM
Quote from: Galedeep on July 02, 2011, 08:14:54 PM
Quote from: martins#1fan on July 02, 2011, 07:18:57 PM
You wouldn't say that if one of his sons were writing the stories.
I don't know how they would write it, there is the good possibility that they knew Brian's vision for the books, but what I think is there is too many ways this "passing the torch" idea could go really wrong.  

Aye, just look through European history and you'll see how much good those types of monarchies did.
Inorite? 17th-19th century Britain was one of the weakest empires!

My point exactly.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: daskar666 on July 15, 2011, 07:08:20 PM
I suppose I'll just have to agree that there won't be any more new books, but I certainly hope there's some unpublished ones. Although that's a bit unlikely, because Eulalia! was released 2 years after High Rhulain suggesting Brian took extra time writing.
Anyways, I hope there's an unpublished book that focuses on moles.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Dannflower Reguba on April 02, 2012, 06:10:06 PM
This may be an old topic but I never get tired of telling people this so... I STRONGLY believe there is a Redwall book not out yet. I went to a writers convention that Bryan Davis was doing and we got some crazy secret information (I am so glad I was there).  :)
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on March 30, 2013, 05:22:14 AM
Whats wrong with somebody else wrighting a Redwall book? It's not that hard to imatate BJ's wrighting style. Like me, whenever I right a story, it's always the same style as BJ's was. Infact, I learned good wrighting by reading BJ's books.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Leatho Shellhound on March 30, 2013, 02:24:05 PM
Quote from: danflorreguba on April 02, 2012, 06:10:06 PM
This may be an old topic but I never get tired of telling people this so... I STRONGLY believe there is a Redwall book not out yet. I went to a writers convention that Bryan Davis was doing and we got some crazy secret information (I am so glad I was there).  :)

So, what is the crazy secret information?
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Tam and Martin on March 30, 2013, 06:18:08 PM
Tell us Dann!!!
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on March 30, 2013, 07:13:38 PM
Yes, please!
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Dannflower Reguba on March 31, 2013, 07:18:28 PM
I'm not aloud (by law) to say much, but I will tell you that there IS a manuscript. I'm not sure if it's redwall or not, but that makes the most since. The story's long, and I'm pushing limits as it is.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on March 31, 2013, 08:55:52 PM
Quote from: danflorreguba on March 31, 2013, 07:18:28 PM
I'm not aloud (by law) to say much, but I will tell you that there IS a manuscript. I'm not sure if it's redwall or not, but that makes the most since. The story's long, and I'm pushing limits as it is.
What do you mean "by law"?
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Dannflower Reguba on April 02, 2013, 02:29:46 PM
It's very hush hush, I'm not supposed to know in the first place.  ;)
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Taggerung_of_Redwall on April 02, 2013, 03:39:15 PM
There is manuscript of Redwall that is unfinished. How unfinished is not publically known. Last I heard, the family hadn't decided whether to get a ghost writer or not. I doubt it is very far along at all-but that is speculation.  Please take heed of previous posts of mine: there is no secrecy needed on this subject. Discuss it as you will.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Dannflower Reguba on April 02, 2013, 04:27:17 PM
Actually, the entire rough draft was finished, it needs polishing. Also, if I remember correctly, the manuscript did NOT go to his family, but to a source in the US.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Taggerung_of_Redwall on April 02, 2013, 05:30:32 PM
The manuscript has not left the family yet, not as of early 2013. They can decide to do nothing with it, get someone to finish it, and if they do that anytime soon, it will take some time to be properly completed and they may still decide not to do anything with it for awhile. By very virtue of their proximity, the work is in their hands to decide what to do with, mostly his brother I suppose, given Brian's conversations over producing his works that he'd have had with him. Not even any secondhand accounts I know, let alone any third-hand account provided, can testify as to the manuscript's condition. There is no press releases, or anything of the sort, to be provided to the public, not now, if ever.

Please, members may speculate as they please, but there is no official information.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Romsca on April 02, 2013, 06:14:58 PM
#nook

Is that all you know?
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on April 02, 2013, 07:36:35 PM
I hope that it gets finished, and published, as well...
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Dannflower Reguba on April 02, 2013, 09:22:47 PM
I know what I heard! There's a manuscript in US hands! Who knows, maybe they are for different things, or are copies of the same thing.
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Romsca on April 02, 2013, 10:29:49 PM
#nook

Maybe there are two unpublished works
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Firehawke on April 03, 2013, 06:47:45 PM
I would love it if a new work surfaced, even if it's unfinished!!!
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Romsca on April 03, 2013, 07:49:31 PM
#nook

I would, too!
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on April 29, 2013, 11:29:30 PM
Quote from: danflorreguba on April 02, 2013, 02:29:46 PM
It's very hush hush, I'm not supposed to know in the first place.  ;)
If its so "Hush-Hush", then how did you find out about it?
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Captain Tammo on April 30, 2013, 01:11:19 AM
Quote from: Taggerung_of_Redwall on April 02, 2013, 05:30:32 PM
The manuscript has not left the family yet, not as of early 2013. They can decide to do nothing with it, get someone to finish it, and if they do that anytime soon, it will take some time to be properly completed and they may still decide not to do anything with it for awhile. By very virtue of their proximity, the work is in their hands to decide what to do with, mostly his brother I suppose, given Brian's conversations over producing his works that he'd have had with him. Not even any secondhand accounts I know, let alone any third-hand account provided, can testify as to the manuscript's condition. There is no press releases, or anything of the sort, to be provided to the public, not now, if ever.

Please, members may speculate as they please, but there is no official information.

How do you know so much about this? My god... ARE YOU A JACQUES!? :o
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on May 02, 2013, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: Captain Tammo on April 30, 2013, 01:11:19 AM
Quote from: Taggerung_of_Redwall on April 02, 2013, 05:30:32 PM
The manuscript has not left the family yet, not as of early 2013. They can decide to do nothing with it, get someone to finish it, and if they do that anytime soon, it will take some time to be properly completed and they may still decide not to do anything with it for awhile. By very virtue of their proximity, the work is in their hands to decide what to do with, mostly his brother I suppose, given Brian's conversations over producing his works that he'd have had with him. Not even any secondhand accounts I know, let alone any third-hand account provided, can testify as to the manuscript's condition. There is no press releases, or anything of the sort, to be provided to the public, not now, if ever.

Please, members may speculate as they please, but there is no official information.

How do you know so much about this? My god... ARE YOU A JACQUES!? :o
Yea, you'ed think! How do you know sooo much, Tagg?
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Shadowed One on May 09, 2013, 04:02:24 PM
Yeah, how do you know all this stuff,eh? Speak up, laddie buck!
Title: Re: Unpublished Work
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on May 09, 2013, 11:46:08 PM
Quote from: Shadowed One on May 09, 2013, 04:02:24 PM
Yeah, how do you know all this stuff,eh? Speak up, laddie buck!
He said that he had "connections"...