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Started by Trigoma, June 24, 2011, 05:08:44 AM

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Gerbilkit

When Salamandastron was first introduced in Mossflower it was very mysterious and many secrets were implied. As it became an accepted, common, and even formulaic part of redwall tales it seemed to become less mysterious and more taken for granted that badgers and hares would always be in Salamandastron.
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Storm

I wonder how so few hares remained in Salamandastron during Mossflower. All other times there were quite a few. Also, will someone please tell me how to say Salamandastron! The one time I played redwall I was laughed at pronouncing it Salamanderstrom.
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Matthias720

It's pronounced similar to salamander except you drop the (er) at the end and replace it with -astron (pronounced how it looks). :)

Osu

Yes, like Matthias says. Sala-mand-AST-rawn.
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Taggerung_of_Redwall

I liked Dinny's pronounciation. "Salad-mand-alon." in his spot-created verse
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DanielofRedwall

Quote from: Taggerung_of_Redwall on July 11, 2011, 04:56:49 PM
I liked Dinny's pronounciation. "Salad-mand-alon." in his spot-created verse
Actually, it's "salad-anna-sconn" if you're talking about that marching song part in Mossflower. Sorry 'bout that!
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Taggerung_of_Redwall

I think Dinny continued with that verse throughout the trek to Salamandastron, and might have pronounced it differently. *shrug* Not sure.

But that brings up one of the greatest mysteries ever of the mountain. The quest of Martin & Co. Badgerlords had dreamed and drawn about them for generations, predicting the coming of a relatively small, but obviously noble and powerful, warrior. Lord Brocktree, Boar the Fighter, Sunstripe the Mace, all saw the drawing done by some ancient badgerlord.

Which brings up something else. Brocktree's tomb. It's pictured in many books, I can't name them all. It decays pretty heavily by the later books. His armor never dulled though.
I love the mountain's secret passages, countless practically in number and scope. So much legends in them, too. Secret walls, ancient treasure, countless fallen and passed badger rulers lying, I'd imagine, in their final resting places.
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Osu

Yes, yes! I'm absolutely positive there are secret passages and places whose locations were lost - or just never found - to later generations. Especially below the surface - recall Stonepaw's party and what little they knew of their whereabouts when fleeing the blue horde, but as an old rhyme saved them, earlier hares must have known about it. Assuming the rhyme was thought up before they began recording history with the written word, I wonder what other secrets the hares may know about without really knowing...

Hey, that paragraph made no sense. In short, Osu could write entire novels on Salamandastron and never tire of it. XD
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ilovemariel

salamadastron is volcnao that does not do the lava stuff anymore, hares of the long patrol live in it with the badger lords.
:-\sorry if i am wrong. I have only read up to outcast of redwall so I do not know much about salamandastron. :-\
Old stories told by travellers, Great songs that bards have sung, Of Mossflower summers, faded, gone, When Redwall's stones were young. Great Hall fires on winter nights,
The legends, who remembers,Battles, banquets, comrades, quests,Recalled midst glowing embers.Draw close now, little woodlander

Osu

Yep, that's correct, ilovemariel. Salamandastron is a big, extinct volcano.

So there MUST be a ton of hidden nooks and crannies and-- and-- I wonder how far down it goes?
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ilovemariel

I bet I could get lost and never find my way out!  :-\
Old stories told by travellers, Great songs that bards have sung, Of Mossflower summers, faded, gone, When Redwall's stones were young. Great Hall fires on winter nights,
The legends, who remembers,Battles, banquets, comrades, quests,Recalled midst glowing embers.Draw close now, little woodlander

Captain Tammo

I'd love to be a long patrol hare!
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Quote from: Captain Tammo on July 18, 2011, 05:43:47 PM
I'd love to be a long patrol hare!

I am a Long Patrol hare. 8) Lol ;)!
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Log-a-Log

I think the echoing chamber mentioned in Mossflower is cool
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Osu

Quote from: Log-a-Log on July 18, 2011, 07:30:41 PM
I think the echoing chamber mentioned in Mossflower is cool
And it's never mentioned anywhere else, as far as I know. Same for that dragon head... I wonder what became of them? The dragon thing could have been lost or destroyed, but the echoing chamber must have played some role throughout Salamandastron's history?
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